And @3dmick if you say its because i dont use VBAR i am going to send @Crash Heligod to your house to live for the next month!

 

Haha mAybe it's time you started to slow things down mate you are getting older you know lol

 

LOL..@3dmick.. I have something to say...... its better to burn out than to fade away!!!! I would rather die with a carbon blade through my skull rather than s l o w i t d o w n ...

 

I new that would get a reaction lol

 

Hey @3dmick check out http://www.heligods.com/threads/tamas-levardi-tail-strike.1862/ AWESOME...

 

As far as Im aware -nothing special needs to be setup..

Ask Feral as he does them all the time at our club - he "left" piros as well to help "unload" the motor.
He uses a spartan gyro.

I tried the other night on my old V3 realflight sim and it was all over the place as you say - but went out the field today and happened to briefly try - heli stayed dead level... I can't do them real quick but as quick as I could - seems all ok.. just not fancy like Feral can do..

BUT - I was using a vbar - lol...

PS: Maybe, because you are trying real hard to do them real fast you may be inadvertantly inputing some aileron without realising ???

 

Setting your gains as high as you can get them without any wobble, and ensure your swash is as level as possible, also CoG is kinda important.

 

Ok, thanks @William and @jockstrap. I do have my COG sorted and i also can do them slowly without issues - but when i slam it (I do it up high to test) it will kick out. Its almost as if the torque of the rotors is throwing it off kilter. I like to tail slide flip on its back, piro - pogo then rainbow and into fast piroflips. If it kicks back to wards me during the pogo it can get pretty scary...